Comments for For Kevin's Sake http://forkevinssake.wordpress.com A place to talk about the "choking game", how it has affected our lives, and how we can stop it Fri, 04 Dec 2009 23:30:58 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 Comment on The Tork family 6 month update by Patti Kimball http://forkevinssake.wordpress.com/2009/10/06/the-tork-family-6-month-update/#comment-51 Patti Kimball Fri, 04 Dec 2009 23:30:58 +0000 http://forkevinssake.wordpress.com/?p=203#comment-51 I lost my beautiful grandson, Nathan Brouwer, on October 17 to this game. I cannot even express the heartache and loss to his family and friends. There is a hole in our hearts that will never be filled. His parents and siblings are forever changed. It seems that this loss will never be overcome. It is overwhelming and unimaginable. Love and peace to all who suffer this loss! I lost my beautiful grandson, Nathan Brouwer, on October 17 to this game. I cannot even express the heartache and loss to his family and friends. There is a hole in our hearts that will never be filled. His parents and siblings are forever changed. It seems that this loss will never be overcome. It is overwhelming and unimaginable. Love and peace to all who suffer this loss!

]]> Comment on The Tork family 6 month update by Tina Smith http://forkevinssake.wordpress.com/2009/10/06/the-tork-family-6-month-update/#comment-50 Tina Smith Sat, 21 Nov 2009 15:37:06 +0000 http://forkevinssake.wordpress.com/?p=203#comment-50 add another name Tyler passed away Aug. 4th, one day after Jay from the "game" forever loved and never forgotten. add another name Tyler passed away Aug. 4th, one day after Jay from the “game” forever loved and never forgotten.

]]> Comment on The Tork family 6 month update by Ayanna and Gaia http://forkevinssake.wordpress.com/2009/10/06/the-tork-family-6-month-update/#comment-48 Ayanna and Gaia Wed, 28 Oct 2009 01:51:46 +0000 http://forkevinssake.wordpress.com/?p=203#comment-48 Our love to all, thinking about guys!!! My blessings and prays to you! Ayanna and Gaia Our love to all, thinking about guys!!! My blessings and prays to you! Ayanna and Gaia

]]> Comment on Today Show “Choking Game” Deaths Story by kltork http://forkevinssake.wordpress.com/2009/04/24/chokinggame-2/#comment-46 kltork Fri, 21 Aug 2009 17:58:17 +0000 http://forkevinssake.wordpress.com/?p=59#comment-46 thank you to all who have taken the time to read on our beautiful son and comment please please please pass this website on to all you know so that we can help our kids understand how serious this is Thank you again, everyone thank you to all who have taken the time to read on our beautiful son and comment
please please please pass this website on to all you know so that we can help our kids understand how serious this is Thank you again, everyone

]]> Comment on Today Show “Choking Game” Deaths Story by dk http://forkevinssake.wordpress.com/2009/04/24/chokinggame-2/#comment-45 dk Wed, 22 Jul 2009 09:26:44 +0000 http://forkevinssake.wordpress.com/?p=59#comment-45 Im from England and used to be addicted to this and have only just found out that other people actually do this, i thought i was the only one in the world. The choking game or American dream as we used to call it is highly addictive. i was addicted to it for years i used to walk around school doing it, one after another. i would always do it on my own though i never did it with friends and i never thought of it as a game cuz it wasnt fun cuz you couldnt stop doing it. i used to take a really deep breath and squeeze my neck with the palms of my hands and stop just before i start to black out to get a buzz. But often id wake up on the floor in class or in the middle of the street, very dangerous. After a while you get really bad head aches and it doesnt feel as good but you still feel you need to do it. stopping was as hard as stopping smoking. sorry for your losses Im from England and used to be addicted to this and have only just found out that other people actually do this, i thought i was the only one in the world. The choking game or American dream as we used to call it is highly addictive. i was addicted to it for years i used to walk around school doing it, one after another. i would always do it on my own though i never did it with friends and i never thought of it as a game cuz it wasnt fun cuz you couldnt stop doing it. i used to take a really deep breath and squeeze my neck with the palms of my hands and stop just before i start to black out to get a buzz. But often id wake up on the floor in class or in the middle of the street, very dangerous. After a while you get really bad head aches and it doesnt feel as good but you still feel you need to do it. stopping was as hard as stopping smoking. sorry for your losses

]]> Comment on Today Show “Choking Game” Deaths Story by Mark F and Laurie E Sison http://forkevinssake.wordpress.com/2009/04/24/chokinggame-2/#comment-41 Mark F and Laurie E Sison Wed, 27 May 2009 00:49:06 +0000 http://forkevinssake.wordpress.com/?p=59#comment-41 Thank you Mr. Tork, for coming in to my classroom. My kids are still talking about your story, how you care so much about saving them and how sad it is that you lost Kevin. They are forever touched by your kindness and understanding. They appreciate you. Thank you again. It was nice to meet you. ~Laurie E Sison Rainier Middle School Auburn WA Thank you Mr. Tork, for coming in to my classroom. My kids are still talking about your story, how you care so much about saving them and how sad it is that you lost Kevin.

They are forever touched by your kindness and understanding.
They appreciate you.
Thank you again. It was nice to meet you.
~Laurie E Sison
Rainier Middle School
Auburn WA

]]> Comment on Today Show “Choking Game” Deaths Story by flygurlual http://forkevinssake.wordpress.com/2009/04/24/chokinggame-2/#comment-40 flygurlual Sun, 24 May 2009 03:14:48 +0000 http://forkevinssake.wordpress.com/?p=59#comment-40 I was linked to your post by one of my own tags and cried as I read this article. I remembered so long ago that we did indeed play the fainting game in our Lutheran school bathroom in the early 70's. It existed that many years ago. A teacher even caught us and told us to stop and go back to our classroom, but thought it to be quite harmless. I can't believe this still continues and now I have a 10 year old son and it is very disturbing to think that this choking game is taking lives and at such an alarming rate. I actually am so grieved about this and there is no young life that will be in vain. I applaud you for exposing this and pray for your peace as you and your family take a stand in your quest to help others. Carrie I was linked to your post by one of my own tags and cried as I read this article. I remembered so long ago that we did indeed play the fainting game in our Lutheran school bathroom in the early 70’s. It existed that many years ago. A teacher even caught us and told us to stop and go back to our classroom, but thought it to be quite harmless. I can’t believe this still continues and now I have a 10 year old son and it is very disturbing to think that this choking game is taking lives and at such an alarming rate. I actually am so grieved about this and there is no young life that will be in vain. I applaud you for exposing this and pray for your peace as you and your family take a stand in your quest to help others.

Carrie

]]> Comment on How to protect your children from you unrestricted access to dangerous sites like You Tube by Rob M. Miller http://forkevinssake.wordpress.com/2009/04/28/how-to-protect-your-children-from-you-unrewstricted-access-to-dangerous-sites-like-you-tube/#comment-34 Rob M. Miller Wed, 06 May 2009 22:01:19 +0000 http://forkevinssake.wordpress.com/?p=93#comment-34 To the Torks, my deepest sympathies. I'm a 41-year-old, and have in my youth experienced this activity, something I heard about at my church, amongst my fellow males in Sunday School, I was right around 15-years-old, at the time. I went home and tried the game a couple of times, and subsequently, like it wasn't that big a deal, happened to tell my mother about it. Great mistake--from a positive point-of-view. "Hey, Mom ... guess what?" (What?) "I learned this game...." Mom flipped, and, thankfully, I listened and it stopped. Yes. A happy ending. What I don't have any memory of, however, is any follow up taking place at the time with our church--and there should have been. At the time, I was mortified that I had red-flagged my mother that I'd been doing something wrong. I was embarrassed, and certainly wouldn't have wanted mom to make a big deal--especially at our church, and amongst my Sunday school teacher and fellow attendees. What kid could would. But, as cute, and as impressive, and even as smart as young people can be, and often are--they sure can be stupid, too. They don't have the years or the experience under their belt to safeguard themselves properly--that's why there's parents, and others in authority that are needed to stand in the gap. No, not every tragedy can be avoided. But many can; and my thanks go out to the Torks, and others, who despite the long-dark-night-of-the-soul that they have to endure, somehow, they've been able to be proactive in getting the word out for the benefit of our collective children. There's no substitute for Kevin, there's no set of words that can be spoken to assuage the grief. But I can and do say thanks for the reminder, that taking a minimalistic approach is not the route to follow--but rather, in this day and age of instant gratification, and unparalleled access to information (good and BAD), more oversight, more controls, more education is needed. This is not a perfect world, and even if every parent out there does there best, there will still be painful experiences. Such is life, and these things are inevitable. Still, that should never be an excuse to not improve, to not do better, to not continue fighting the good fight, and with the Torks are doing, in part with this blog, and their other activities--exhorting their fellows to be aware of one of the beasts in the midst. To the Torks, My Sympathy, my empathy, my thanks; light dispels darkness ... keep shining the light, this danger's been "hidden" far too long. My church should have been told. I'm not mad at my mother about, but I've learned from it, and from the reminding torch you're now holding forth. Sincerely, Rob M. Miller To the Torks, my deepest sympathies. I’m a 41-year-old, and have in my youth experienced this activity, something I heard about at my church, amongst my fellow males in Sunday School, I was right around 15-years-old, at the time. I went home and tried the game a couple of times, and subsequently, like it wasn’t that big a deal, happened to tell my mother about it. Great mistake–from a positive point-of-view. “Hey, Mom … guess what?” (What?) “I learned this game….” Mom flipped, and, thankfully, I listened and it stopped. Yes. A happy ending. What I don’t have any memory of, however, is any follow up taking place at the time with our church–and there should have been. At the time, I was mortified that I had red-flagged my mother that I’d been doing something wrong. I was embarrassed, and certainly wouldn’t have wanted mom to make a big deal–especially at our church, and amongst my Sunday school teacher and fellow attendees. What kid could would. But, as cute, and as impressive, and even as smart as young people can be, and often are–they sure can be stupid, too. They don’t have the years or the experience under their belt to safeguard themselves properly–that’s why there’s parents, and others in authority that are needed to stand in the gap. No, not every tragedy can be avoided. But many can; and my thanks go out to the Torks, and others, who despite the long-dark-night-of-the-soul that they have to endure, somehow, they’ve been able to be proactive in getting the word out for the benefit of our collective children. There’s no substitute for Kevin, there’s no set of words that can be spoken to assuage the grief. But I can and do say thanks for the reminder, that taking a minimalistic approach is not the route to follow–but rather, in this day and age of instant gratification, and unparalleled access to information (good and BAD), more oversight, more controls, more education is needed. This is not a perfect world, and even if every parent out there does there best, there will still be painful experiences. Such is life, and these things are inevitable. Still, that should never be an excuse to not improve, to not do better, to not continue fighting the good fight, and with the Torks are doing, in part with this blog, and their other activities–exhorting their fellows to be aware of one of the beasts in the midst.

To the Torks,
My Sympathy, my empathy, my thanks; light dispels darkness … keep shining the light, this danger’s been “hidden” far too long. My church should have been told. I’m not mad at my mother about, but I’ve learned from it, and from the reminding torch you’re now holding forth.

Sincerely,
Rob M. Miller

]]> Comment on About by kltork http://forkevinssake.wordpress.com/about/#comment-33 kltork Mon, 04 May 2009 14:15:53 +0000 #comment-33 ty kv if you ever come bakc here and read this.please know I was told by god to spread this word and even thoug i encourage people to speak their minds .you have not lost a child you have not have the lord god bring this opportunity to you. I have. and knowledge is power and I have to help parents have the power to prevent this from happening to them. and parents have to be parents. and please make sure you know what I said beofre critiqing me ..I said restrict which means control..which means parent. but I thank you for your comments. ty kv if you ever come bakc here and read this.please know I was told by god to spread this word and even thoug i encourage people to speak their minds .you have not lost a child you have not have the lord god bring this opportunity to you. I have. and knowledge is power and I have to help parents have the power to prevent this from happening to them. and parents have to be parents. and please make sure you know what I said beofre critiqing me ..I said restrict which means control..which means parent. but I thank you for your comments.

]]> Comment on How can we protect our children from the “choking game”? by twelti http://forkevinssake.wordpress.com/2009/04/21/how-can-we-protect-our-children-from-the-choking-game/#comment-25 twelti Sat, 25 Apr 2009 16:40:38 +0000 http://forkevinssake.wordpress.com/?p=33#comment-25 Chris, I'm guessing you dont have kids or are 12 years old. Kids don't kill themslves because thier parents care enough to limit their activities in order to protect them. I for one will limit their activities and even invade their privacy if I have to, in order to SAVE THEIR LIVES. Youtube is a good example of the kind of internet activity parents need to restrict, but certianly not the only one. There are lots of things out there that I'm not ready to have my children looking at. I note that in the poll on the frontpage of this blog, as of this morning, 86% of respondants agreed that they would limit their childrens internet access if it could save their lives. I wonder about the other 16%, what their justification is... Chris,
I’m guessing you dont have kids or are 12 years old. Kids don’t kill themslves because thier parents care enough to limit their activities in order to protect them. I for one will limit their activities and even invade their privacy if I have to, in order to SAVE THEIR LIVES.

Youtube is a good example of the kind of internet activity parents need to restrict, but certianly not the only one. There are lots of things out there that I’m not ready to have my children looking at.

I note that in the poll on the frontpage of this blog, as of this morning, 86% of respondants agreed that they would limit their childrens internet access if it could save their lives. I wonder about the other 16%, what their justification is…

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